P.S.:
What was it like to record with Laurie again after so many years?
(John and Laurie were originally in a band together called The
Hilltops.)
JOHN:
It was great. It's really an example of when things go
better than planned. The record was kind of a goal in her moving
up here (re-locating to Chicago). She had a lot of friends here as
well. We were able to get everything together pretty quickly on
the record. It took more time actually doing the writing and the
arranging. It went off pretty easy and fast so we had a great
time. It was great.
P.S.: Can you tell me a little about how you wrote the song
We'll Meet Again.
JOHN: It was kind of a car song. It was really interesting.
She had a lot of it. There were lines we threw back and forth. We
were kind of just arranging it with the guitar while she drove.
Then we would take turns driving. It was really fun. I-55 is one
of the old stretches of road so you can actually concentrate that
much, play the guitar, talk about the song and not be endangering
any other drivers.
P.S.: Not like being on the 101 in L.A.
JOHN: Probably so. Totally.
P.S.: With the career that you've had and all of the
different projects you've been a part of, what is an experience or
moment that really stands out for you?
JOHN: There have definitely been a lot of moments that were
great. Especially when you know that you really like a track when
it's done. Like Sunken Treasure, I remember recording that
live in the studio for Being There. I had a similar
experience for a couple of songs on this record actually, (Arabella).
At the end of it, it was where you felt like it was a moment... I
don't want to say transcendent or anything but I guess it sort of
is. It feels like you're kind of transported or something. With
the
song A Merciful Night, there were two or three takes with that
and they were all just... it happened so fast and it was so
satisfying.
P.S.: How did you originally start playing with Uncle
Tupelo?
JOHN: This was back in the late 80's, early 90's when
Laurie and I last played together. We actually had a band called
The Hilltops. I guess from a genre standpoint, we were pretty
similar to Uncle Tupelo. We were really heavy into SST bands but
at the same time, we always enjoyed country. We weren't as
successful in bridging the different genres as Uncle Tupelo was.
We were about two years into our existence when we got a demo tape
from the college radio station. It was an early demo of Tupelo. We
liked it so much that we invited them down to play a show and we
volunteered to open for them to try to get a crowd out and
everything. It was really successful. Then we got to be great
friends. Later, we opened for them around the Midwest and we
opened for their album release party. So we got to be friends with
them and then The Hilltops dissolved. I briefly played with
another band in New Orleans for a while and then got a call from
Tupelo to go on the road in '92. That was when I really started
hanging out with them, going out on the road and guitar teching.
It was in Europe so I was really excited to go to Europe and do
that. It was their first time as well. We went and came back and
started demo-ing for Anodyne. By that time I was playing
bass and guitar. It was I guess pretty fast but I had known them
for three years at that point.
P.S.: How did the band evolve from Uncle Tupelo to Wilco?
JOHN: Tupelo had been around for so long at that point that
I think the strain between Jay and Jeff was there. I guess Jay
kind of announced around Christmas '93 right after Anodyne
was put out, their last record, that he was quitting the band. It
was a huge surprise to us because we were having such a great
time. It just didn't seem like there were any problems but I guess
there were. He kind of left the band although he opted to come
back and play through May. That's how the band dissolved. Then,
Jeff approached us and said he was having a great time playing
with us and would we like to continue? That's how it started.
P.S.: Then, you lost another member named Jay. How have the
dynamics changed in Wilco since Jay Bennett left following
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?
JOHN: I would say that everyone... It's kind of been
in keeping with the personalities of each person. Generally, bands
have this period of a few years of tumult. It's kind of natural
for people to kind of jockey for position (laughs), and power or
something. Although, it was obviously Jeff's record deal. He was
the man. I think in the case of Jay, I don't think anyone envied
his position or anything (laughs). It was more about people not
being able to work with him. But to answer your question, since
then it's really calmed down. It's a real sort of consortium or
something. It feels as egalitarian as it can be with having a
primary songwriter or at least a primary lyricist. Back before, I
had contributed a song to the first record. There was a little
more instability which is natural.
P.S.: That's why it seems natural that you have so many
different projects where you can contribute different aspects of
creativity.
JOHN: That's what's been so great about the bands.
It's been this extended family of musicians. There's a lot of
people playing on everyone's records. The Stirratts record is a
good indication of that. I don't think the situation in Wilco
would be as good if everyone wasn't also doing their own thing.